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Thorondor Port · Mar 06, 2008, 07:25 PM // 19:25

I much prefer furious...

Taurucis · Mar 06, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

A scrub player is literally a "small" player, like a small bush compared to a tree.

So it's basically all about the e-peen?

Back on topic, I think that the elemental items are best unless you need stuff that triggers off physical damage.

whitedragon · Mar 06, 2008, 07:49 PM // 19:49

Well the point of this post was to make every see that it dont have to be this mod or that mod to be perfect but noobs will be noobs. It was as if a noob king some where said

I decree from here on out that all perfects will have prunning and if its not then we must call them noob and show them how little there brains are.

HawkofStorms · Mar 06, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

So it's basically all about the e-peen?

Back on topic, I think that the elemental items are best unless you need stuff that triggers off physical damage.

No.
"scrub" generally refers to playstyle and skill. E-peen refers to having more ecto and ultra rare minis then the other guy.

Sir Tidus · Mar 06, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25

All this talk about sword hilts. Generally, what's the best sword pommel for a warrior? Fortitude? Warding?

DarkFlame · Mar 06, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

There was a time when 20/20 sundering hilts and +30 pommels were sold for 25-30k each. Logic follows that since they were the most expensive, they must also be the best. Fortunately it seems, we know better, but there are still alot of noobs out there.

I had a max req 9 inscribable jade sword on me once, that dropped caster moded. I was trying to sell it as is, saying it was a "perfect" sword. Man the grief that I got.

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

All this talk about sword hilts. Generally, what's the best sword pommel for a warrior? Fortitude? Warding?

Defense

Sir Tidus · Mar 06, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56

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Originally Posted by DarkFlame

There was a time when 20/20 sundering hilts and +30 pommels were sold for 25-30k each. Logic follows that since they were the most expensive, they must also be the best. Fortunately it seems, we know better, but there are still alot of noobs out there.

I had a max req 9 inscribable jade sword on me once, that dropped caster moded. I was trying to sell it as is, saying it was a "perfect" sword. Man the grief that I got.

Defense

Defense! Really?! What do others think? What about +1 attribute or the popular fortitude. Does +30 health really make that much of a difference?

HawkofStorms · Mar 07, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Defense does better then fortitude against straight up damage.
However, fortitude will do better against degen and armor ignoring damage (when defense doesn't do anything).

However, fortitude is still the most popular choice because it protects against spikes (a PvP team that casts spells in bursts over the course of 0-2 seconds that kill one person instantly).

Age · Mar 07, 2008, 12:43 AM // 00:43

I would say Vamp,Elemental,Zealous and then Furious.Sundering is more for Axe.

Ennes X · Mar 07, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52

The botttom line is that there is no such thing as a perfect weapon. What is perfect changes with the build and situation dynamically.

azizul1975 · Mar 07, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46

i like furious mod better than sundering. any shot on 2x adrenaline is good enough for me.

most of my sword have fortitude +30 mod. the extra health makes me feels good, so as not being the prime target in PvE by having extra health (monster seems to target the one with lower health). but thats PvE, i don't PvP much. may be i should try putting defense pommel on, and see how it goes. by the way, sword with +30 always sell faster and better though, not sure why, lol.

in term of inscriptions, i always prefer 15%/-5e over 15%^50. good warrior's build dont need much energy really.

Dark Kal · Mar 07, 2008, 09:32 AM // 09:32

Why are some of my posts deleted? They were perfectly rational, good posts. Anyone saying Sundering > Vamperic with a good reasonable explanation gets post-wiped, while any idiot saying ZOMG tez sunderin mod is teh suxxors doesn't. I'd understand if it were to avoid another Sundering vs Vamperic thread but atleast remove all posts not directly related to the OP's question. Sigh, GG judgmental moderators. Go ahead ban me I don't think I'll be posting much more in this you-must-conform-to-everything-everyone-else-says-or-get-post-wiped forum anyway. Good day.

Mechz · Mar 07, 2008, 11:48 AM // 11:48

To me, perfect is Zealous/Vampiric of Swordsmanship/Enchanting, with either 15^50 or e+5 inscriptions

=p

kobey · Mar 07, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

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Originally Posted by Dark Kal

Why are some of my posts deleted? They were perfectly rational, good posts.

I read your first few arguements about vamp vs sundering on this thread.

I don't think your deleted posts will make any difference to me

Anyway, to the OP: Perfect swords refer to 15^50, 20/20, +30 especially during trades. So if you wish to avoid the "[insert rude name calling], its not perfect" reply you might get, avoid spamming WTS Perfect Sword unless it has the said mods on them.

Btw, its just how the market (well at least most ppl in trading) name the term "perfect", not that I agree or disagree. Its always best to sell the weapon clean

Dante the Warlord · Mar 08, 2008, 05:27 AM // 05:27

Well this will spark a TERRIBLE debate so tyvm in advance. Anyways, a lotta people are new players who want everything handed to them and want "perfect mods" on everything. Its also why people are lead to believe that 1% 1e or +1 makes a big difference in battle and that any mod is totally worthless if its not perfect.

The community is STUPID, thats the fact, people always want to feel they are right and ignore everything else. In the end they get pwned for it and keep doing so until they correct the mistake or quit GW blaming everyone else cause they obviously can't accept the fact that they are wrong and live on their failure life in reality. Yes, a year ago, maybe even more, i was stupid, started a debate similar to this one claiming sundering>vampiric, but i eventually found the error and its taught me a great lesson to take advice.

Anyways for those of you who don't know yes vampiric is better then sundering, you gain an overall health and do more damage. However, you are supposed to switch weapons while just walking and not in battle. Most noobs make the wrong choice in carrying it aroudn 24/7 and dying in one hit when they get down to 1 health, claiming it stinks in that fact.

Overall elemental mods are best for wars, zealous or vampiric is good for spellcasters and all the other classes really. Zealous is a bit better IMHO since itll take a bit of the energy from them.

NOW that ive at least TRIED to stop the debate on whats better

Nightmares Hammer · Mar 08, 2008, 05:32 AM // 05:32

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Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

Well this will spark a TERRIBLE debate so tyvm in advance. Anyways, a lotta people are new players who want everything handed to them and want "perfect mods" on everything. Its also why people are lead to believe that 1% 1e or +1 makes a big difference in battle and that any mod is totally worthless if its not perfect.

The community is STUPID, thats the fact, people always want to feel they are right and ignore everything else. In the end they get pwned for it and keep doing so until they correct the mistake or quit GW blaming everyone else cause they obviously can't accept the fact that they are wrong and live on their failure life in reality. Yes, a year ago, maybe even more, i was stupid, started a debate similar to this one claiming sundering>vampiric, but i eventually found the error and its taught me a great lesson to take advice.

Anyways for those of you who don't know yes vampiric is better then sundering, you gain an overall health and do more damage. However, you are supposed to switch weapons while just walking and not in battle. Most noobs make the wrong choice in carrying it aroudn 24/7 and dying in one hit when they get down to 1 health, claiming it stinks in that fact.

Overall elemental mods are best for wars, zealous or vampiric is good for spellcasters and all the other classes really. Zealous is a bit better IMHO since itll take a bit of the energy from them.

NOW that ive at least TRIED to stop the debate on whats better

Yes we know Vampiric is better than Sundering. If you look at some other posts you'll see that. The rest is just... Random.

Dark Kal · Mar 10, 2008, 10:31 AM // 10:31

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Originally Posted by kobey

I read your first few arguements about vamp vs sundering on this thread.

I don't think your deleted posts will make any difference to me

My point was that there was no reason to delete them since they didn't break any of the forum rules AFAIK. So we are only allowed to post anything that conforms to the moderators opinions? Cough*fascism*cough...

What a travesty, my bad I thought this forum had some intelligent people in it, don't worry I won't make the same mistake again. Any intelligent person can see both vampiric and sundering have their good and bad sides. Yes, vampiric does more damage than sundering but you will be constantly swapping weapons, whereas sundering does less damage but you never need to swap it. Seeing as weapons mods don't make a big difference sundering is prefered over vampiric, unless you really like to constantly swap weapons. It's also best to have several different weapons for different builds/enemies encountered. Don't bother replying I already know what you're going to say: ZOMG, teh vampiric is the best your a idiot!

Pyro maniac · Mar 10, 2008, 10:40 AM // 10:40

20/20 and +30 are the 'rarest' mods, therefore perfect for trading

When you're actually using the sword instead of keeping it in your stash, switch it with some good mods, in stead of the expensive ones.

kobey · Mar 10, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56

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Originally Posted by Dark Kal

Any intelligent person can see both vampiric and sundering have their good and bad sides.

Yes, so does mending. Mending has its good side too. Well, it errrr, gives you health regen

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Originally Posted by Dark Kal

Yes, vampiric does more damage than sundering but you will be constantly swapping weapons, whereas sundering does less damage but you never need to swap it.

You don't have to swap away vamp if you don't want to. A 5e heal every 30 secs won't kill or irritate the monk, even less so if its hero/hench.

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Originally Posted by Dark Kal

Don't bother replying I already know what you're going to say: ZOMG, teh vampiric is the best your a idiot!

Please do not make baseless assumptions. I don't call people names, no matter how nasty they are or bad they are.

Dark Kal · Mar 10, 2008, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by kobey

Yes, so does mending. Mending has its good side too. Well, it errrr, gives you health regen

Mending is a fairly good skill when used correctly, it can counter certain degen
(e.g. 55hp monk). But obviously I meant a somewhat equal amount of good and bad sides from both mods.

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You don't have to swap away vamp if you don't want to. A 5e heal every 30 secs won't kill or irritate the monk, even less so if its hero/hench.

LOL

you're a pretty funny guy. Have you ever played a monk seriously? Healing a guy every 30 seconds for over an hours becomes a huge annoyance, just because he wants to do a marginal increase in damage. Hero/hench will waste much of their energy on trying to constantly heal you so that they'll have little left when you really need it. Not swapping weapons most definitly puts sundering on top as the better mod.

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Please do not make baseless assumptions. I don't call people names, no matter how nasty they are or bad they are.

They're not baseless they reflect the reaction of the majority of posters on these forums as I've witnessed them, albeit in a more extreme form to further point out the arrogance/idiocy of many of the posters in these forums. It wasn't really directed at you (or anyone in specific) but more at the guru community as a whole, but I can understand your confusion.

Mar 06, 2008, 07:25 PM // 19:25	#41
Thorondor Port Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: British Columbia Profession: W/	I much prefer furious...

Mar 06, 2008, 07:49 PM // 19:49	#43
whitedragon Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Golden Dragons of Tyria (G0ID) Profession: N/E	Well the point of this post was to make every see that it dont have to be this mod or that mod to be perfect but noobs will be noobs. It was as if a noob king some where said I decree from here on out that all perfects will have prunning and if its not then we must call them noob and show them how little there brains are.

Mar 06, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25	#45
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	All this talk about sword hilts. Generally, what's the best sword pommel for a warrior? Fortitude? Warding?

Mar 07, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23	#48
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Defense does better then fortitude against straight up damage. However, fortitude will do better against degen and armor ignoring damage (when defense doesn't do anything). However, fortitude is still the most popular choice because it protects against spikes (a PvP team that casts spells in bursts over the course of 0-2 seconds that kill one person instantly).

Mar 07, 2008, 12:43 AM // 00:43	#49
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	I would say Vamp,Elemental,Zealous and then Furious.Sundering is more for Axe.

Mar 07, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52	#50
Ennes X Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Teh Outsiders [xxxx]	The botttom line is that there is no such thing as a perfect weapon. What is perfect changes with the build and situation dynamically.

Mar 07, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46	#51
azizul1975 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GMT+8 Guild: The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO) Profession: Mo/	i like furious mod better than sundering. any shot on 2x adrenaline is good enough for me. most of my sword have fortitude +30 mod. the extra health makes me feels good, so as not being the prime target in PvE by having extra health (monster seems to target the one with lower health). but thats PvE, i don't PvP much. may be i should try putting defense pommel on, and see how it goes. by the way, sword with +30 always sell faster and better though, not sure why, lol. in term of inscriptions, i always prefer 15%/-5e over 15%^50. good warrior's build dont need much energy really.

Mar 07, 2008, 09:32 AM // 09:32	#52
Dark Kal Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2006	Why are some of my posts deleted? They were perfectly rational, good posts. Anyone saying Sundering > Vamperic with a good reasonable explanation gets post-wiped, while any idiot saying ZOMG tez sunderin mod is teh suxxors doesn't. I'd understand if it were to avoid another Sundering vs Vamperic thread but atleast remove all posts not directly related to the OP's question. Sigh, GG judgmental moderators. Go ahead ban me I don't think I'll be posting much more in this you-must-conform-to-everything-everyone-else-says-or-get-post-wiped forum anyway. Good day.

Mar 07, 2008, 11:48 AM // 11:48	#53
Mechz Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dayton, OH Guild: The Epic Fail Guild [EFG] Profession: A/	To me, perfect is Zealous/Vampiric of Swordsmanship/Enchanting, with either 15^50 or e+5 inscriptions =p

Mar 08, 2008, 05:27 AM // 05:27	#55
Dante the Warlord Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/R	Well this will spark a TERRIBLE debate so tyvm in advance. Anyways, a lotta people are new players who want everything handed to them and want "perfect mods" on everything. Its also why people are lead to believe that 1% 1e or +1 makes a big difference in battle and that any mod is totally worthless if its not perfect. The community is STUPID, thats the fact, people always want to feel they are right and ignore everything else. In the end they get pwned for it and keep doing so until they correct the mistake or quit GW blaming everyone else cause they obviously can't accept the fact that they are wrong and live on their failure life in reality. Yes, a year ago, maybe even more, i was stupid, started a debate similar to this one claiming sundering>vampiric, but i eventually found the error and its taught me a great lesson to take advice. Anyways for those of you who don't know yes vampiric is better then sundering, you gain an overall health and do more damage. However, you are supposed to switch weapons while just walking and not in battle. Most noobs make the wrong choice in carrying it aroudn 24/7 and dying in one hit when they get down to 1 health, claiming it stinks in that fact. Overall elemental mods are best for wars, zealous or vampiric is good for spellcasters and all the other classes really. Zealous is a bit better IMHO since itll take a bit of the energy from them. NOW that ive at least TRIED to stop the debate on whats better

Mar 10, 2008, 10:40 AM // 10:40	#58
Pyro maniac Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	20/20 and +30 are the 'rarest' mods, therefore perfect for trading When you're actually using the sword instead of keeping it in your stash, switch it with some good mods, in stead of the expensive ones.